Nikon or Canon ? ;p
ok. I have asked a lot of you dear friends about my purchase I was going to do first thing tomorrow. But I did hassle other photographers I know and one asked me : Why do you choose Nikon ? I could not answer... Asking too many people is not necessarily helpful ! lol ! Now I don't want to trigger another friendly war that some of you enjoy doing. I personally do not think a brand is better than another but a particular camera or lens against it's rival, I suspect there's surely a winner.
One thing that is for sure, I swear, is that I will buy the Tamron 17-50mm f/1.8 and that is final.
My Nikonian choice is : the D300 and the prime 85mm f/1.8.
My Canoner choice is : the EOS 7D and the prime 85 mm f/1.8.
What is getting clearer in my head is that I want one prime and one zoom lens as a starter kit. The wider, telephoto, macro will be for later on. What I need for now, since I will be getting back to zero, is just normal zoom and that 85 mm that produces the beautiful shallow Dof that I'm impatient to produce. Why a prime and a zoom ? because I want to do some tests and fully understand the difference of how I will be working with each.
Note that I only started my canon research this evening and for the nikon, I started slowly, here and there, not full time, 4 months ago... The first difference I found is that the Canon kit is more expensive : 320$ more.
When somebody asks me a smart question that I cannot answer, it pushes me to investigate. I thank you very much for those who had the time to answer my request.
Les- I found out why overlapping could be useful : sometimes when you want a slightly wider or shallower, you don't have to change lenses when it's overlapping a bit. It's specially useful when you're in a situation where you have to be quick to not miss the moment.
Michael- Ah yes ? prime are sharper, cool to know. Of course, I read about the lenses weaknesses at their extremes but did not fully register the info. Thx for that ! and yes, I understand about wanting more lenses, I already have a wishlist on my next ones... ;]
Mark- well, I asked you because you have the D300... oh that makes me think Matt has one too, I forgot to ask him... If you are searching for a prime of about 24 or 35 mm. I was tempted by the Nikkor 35mm because it is so inexpensive and for it's price has good quality. For portraiture, your subject might appear to have bigger noses... maybe the Nikkor 85mm would be something to consider. Some say it's gives great portrait. I just chose it because I love the shallow Dof of the sampled images I saw compared to the 35mm. It also has a better review and is more expensive...
Geno-I adore close ups and macro, so when I will buy one, it will be a really amazing one, a specialized one that will be too expensive to buy with the DSLR and another lens. I'm reserving that purchase for when I get a hang on how the cam works.
I guess bottom line there's no bad choice, just bad manipulation afterwards, lol ! It's just that since it's my first DSLR, it will determine witch brand I will be stuck with for the rest of my life... So if you have any more thoughts that could help me finally decide, I would greatly appreciate it ! Sorry for the bother...
One thing that is for sure, I swear, is that I will buy the Tamron 17-50mm f/1.8 and that is final.
My Nikonian choice is : the D300 and the prime 85mm f/1.8.
My Canoner choice is : the EOS 7D and the prime 85 mm f/1.8.
What is getting clearer in my head is that I want one prime and one zoom lens as a starter kit. The wider, telephoto, macro will be for later on. What I need for now, since I will be getting back to zero, is just normal zoom and that 85 mm that produces the beautiful shallow Dof that I'm impatient to produce. Why a prime and a zoom ? because I want to do some tests and fully understand the difference of how I will be working with each.
Note that I only started my canon research this evening and for the nikon, I started slowly, here and there, not full time, 4 months ago... The first difference I found is that the Canon kit is more expensive : 320$ more.
When somebody asks me a smart question that I cannot answer, it pushes me to investigate. I thank you very much for those who had the time to answer my request.
Les- I found out why overlapping could be useful : sometimes when you want a slightly wider or shallower, you don't have to change lenses when it's overlapping a bit. It's specially useful when you're in a situation where you have to be quick to not miss the moment.
Michael- Ah yes ? prime are sharper, cool to know. Of course, I read about the lenses weaknesses at their extremes but did not fully register the info. Thx for that ! and yes, I understand about wanting more lenses, I already have a wishlist on my next ones... ;]
Mark- well, I asked you because you have the D300... oh that makes me think Matt has one too, I forgot to ask him... If you are searching for a prime of about 24 or 35 mm. I was tempted by the Nikkor 35mm because it is so inexpensive and for it's price has good quality. For portraiture, your subject might appear to have bigger noses... maybe the Nikkor 85mm would be something to consider. Some say it's gives great portrait. I just chose it because I love the shallow Dof of the sampled images I saw compared to the 35mm. It also has a better review and is more expensive...
Geno-I adore close ups and macro, so when I will buy one, it will be a really amazing one, a specialized one that will be too expensive to buy with the DSLR and another lens. I'm reserving that purchase for when I get a hang on how the cam works.
I guess bottom line there's no bad choice, just bad manipulation afterwards, lol ! It's just that since it's my first DSLR, it will determine witch brand I will be stuck with for the rest of my life... So if you have any more thoughts that could help me finally decide, I would greatly appreciate it ! Sorry for the bother...
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Permalink Reply by Mao on -
GabrielC said:
My advice is to go to a photo store and simply test several cameras to se how they fit in your hands .
Yes I think I'm beginning to come to the same conclusion. I guess I just need a reason to justify my choice ! The research and input I receive does makes me see the general differences. I'll got to the store.
By the way, when they say "fits on Canon or Nikon AF", I know AF means auto focus but does it mean it will fit on full framed also ?
Ninon, no offense to your friend but if he's willing to spend mucho dineros just because of the name tag, it's kind of stupid... I would by far prefer impressing others by my images than by witch camera I use...
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Or maybe more like the guy who was in heaven and found no need to explore hell :- ) lol
Matt J said:Kind of like the fly at the bottom of the vinegar jar, who loved it there because it was the only place he'd ever been...
Don said:Mao,
I can not comment on Nikon because I have never owned one. Good luck with your search.
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Permalink Reply by DAVID HOBCOTE on -
Mao ...You know what you should do ............Just do it ........: )
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Ninon, I'm sorry but what you are saying is just factually incorrect. Canon came out with the dust removal system in their entry level DSLR before Nikon. I have a Canon 400D which has it. The Nikon D40 does not have it. Also as far as innovation is concerned it is only because of Canon introducing the first "Affordable DSLR" that people like me were even able to buy a DSLR at that time. The VERY FIRST AFFORDABLE DSLR WAS A "CANON DIGITAL REBEL'. And it out sold every dslr in the market. Check it out the facts speak for themselves.
Ninon CZ said:You make one point that I certainly agree with: Nikon appears to be ahead of Canon in "innovation." I think I said that? What I mean is that they are adding features that Canon isn't as quick to add. One that my friend has that I would sure love is an automatic dust cleaner inside. He NEVER has spots...I fight with them all the time. The professional photographer I know has a Canon and fights with spots all the time.
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Permalink Reply by Don on -
I guess I will bow out of this discussion. I never wanted to offend anyone or their camera choices.
Good Luck Mao with your final selection. I don't care which camera you choose, but I can't wait to see the shots you take with it.
Don
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I'm also going to bow out of this discussion. Providing fact based information that would help you make an informed decision was my only goal. As I stated in the very beginning Canon and Nikon make great cameras I'd happily own either brand. I am very happy for you and excited about your purchase which ever it happens to be. Looking forward to some amazing photos.
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Permalink Reply by Mao on
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Boy the pressure ! ;p ha ! Lol !
Thx everybody !!
David's right. I'm closing the discussion and just stop being a chicken. Unplanned events have come up. I have to stop obsessing with this for a while. (Isn't hard to stop thinking about photography ? I really have a problem) ;p
I will go at the store and just feel them as Gabriel told. I'll keep you posted on my decision.
Now let's go back to talking about images instead of gears. YAHOO ! I love you guys ! ¦D (I'm still not drunk, come on ! ha !)
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